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Author Topic: Problem using organizations/institutions as author
Felix
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Post Problem using organizations/institutions as author
on: May 6, 2014, 15:43

Hi,

I am using doc4word 1.20 in combination with jabref 2.10 . I am familiar to use {} in bibtex if the author is an organization, e.g.

@Book{IEA2012,
Title = {World Energy Outlook 2012},
Author = {{International Energy Agency}},
Year = {2012}
}

In all my .tex files this will result in sth. like

(International Energy Agency, 2012)

However, if i am using the same bibtex file with docear4word, it will produce the following output:

(Agency, 2012)

Any suggestions? Sth. wrong with my bibtex file? I tried several citation styles as well...

thanks alot for help!

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Joeran-
[Docear]
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Posts: 655
Post Re: Problem using organizations/institutions as author
on: May 8, 2014, 15:27

please read the faq http://www.docear.org/faqs/how-can-i-keep-two-or-more-words-as-last-name/

Flor
Newbie
Posts: 5
Post Re: Problem using organizations/institutions as author
on: May 30, 2014, 16:33

I'm just hitting against this problem too.

What's the reason that a non-bibtex standard mark up is required? Standard bibtex woudl be {{ }} or "{ }".

This is really really ugly. We're thinking about rolling out Docear4Word across our organisation but this is going to be problematic.

Joeran-
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Posts: 655
Post Re: Problem using organizations/institutions as author
on: June 2, 2014, 10:53

That's an issue of the BibTeX library/parser we use in Docear4Word. I agree that this format is annoying. I will contact the developer of that library and ask if he can change it, but I cannot promise anything.

Flor
Newbie
Posts: 5
Post Re: Problem using organizations/institutions as author
on: June 2, 2014, 11:00

Many thanks that would be great.

Or could it have to do with that Docear4Word parses the fields not correctly? To me this sounds like an character escaping/not-escaping issues possibly before it's passed to siteproc-js. But then I don't really know how this fits together, so forgive me if I'm completely wrong.

Joeran-
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Posts: 655
Post Re: Problem using organizations/institutions as author
on: June 6, 2014, 12:43

@Flor
the parsing is done correctly, so the problem is a design problem. However, I spoke with the developer of Docear4Word and in a future version you will be able to use e.g. {{International Energy Agency}} to indicate this to be an organization name.

Meanwhile, there is a very simple solution. If you want to have an in-text citation like

(International Energy Agency, 2004)

then you just need to add a comma behind the name in Docear. It will look like this in the BibTeX code

author = {International Energy Agency,}

This makes Docear(4Word) think that "International Energy Agency" is the last name, and the string behind the comma is the first name (since there is nothing behind the comma, the first name is just ignored).

Flor
Newbie
Posts: 5
Post Re: Problem using organizations/institutions as author
on: June 6, 2014, 13:08

Thanks for checking, much appreciated.

I very much prefer the comma-hack than the "\{...\}" approach. It's much simpler to explain to new users as well. Thank you.

Joeran-
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Posts: 655
Post Re: Problem using organizations/institutions as author
on: June 9, 2014, 08:42

yes, i agree

Flor
Newbie
Posts: 5
Post Re: Problem using organizations/institutions as author
on: August 5, 2014, 12:52

Hi,

We've been using the comma-hack succesfully for a while.

However, we noticed that this does not work for organisation names with the word "of" in it, for example in "Soil Survey of Scotland Staff,". It will always think that "Scotland Staff" is the author's last name. It looks like the word "of" is treated differently, maybe in the same way as "Van" and "Von" etc?

Flor
Newbie
Posts: 5
Post Re: Problem using organizations/institutions as author
on: August 26, 2014, 11:51

I'm just adding this as test material for when this will be properly fixed. The following two organisation names also require "\{...\}"; the comma-hack does not work here either:

\{cbec eco-engineering\}
\{Walking the Talk\}
loemrntdhe-
rid1
Newbie
Posts: 19
Post Re: Problem using organizations/institutions as author
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